Millions of Years Old DNA? – Creation Moments

September 11, 2020 by Lee

Timothy 6:20
“O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called…”

While even many Christians feel obligated to accept millions of evolutionary years, evidence continues to build for a young creation. The evidence has mounted to the point that even many evolutionists feel they must find some explanation for it.

In a previous Creation Moments program, we talked about DNA and other cell material found unfossilized in what was otherwise a fossilized T. rex. Since then, a hadrosaur leg bone with intact blood cells has also been found. Then there is the mummified hadrosaur that was the subject of a television special. Even its internal organs were intact. According to evolutionists, we are supposed to believe that this mummy had not crumbled to dust in 77 million years. That claim is not credible, given our experience with the best preserved Egyptian mummies that are only a few thousand years old. Segments of DNA have also been found from Neanderthals, supposedly prehistoric mammals, plants and even bacteria. According to evolutionary dating, these samples range in age from 40,000 to 250 million years. Yet, we know that DNA is totally decayed in 10,000 years. Enough color pigment cells remain in a fossilized feather that you can still see the color pattern. Yet, it is supposedly more than 100 million years old.

While evolutionists have tried some explanations for this evidence, the simplest explanation is that they are young.

Prayer: Father, fill me with a greater hunger for Your Word so that, taught by You, I will not be misled by falsehood. Amen.

Author: Paul A. Bartz

Ref: Acts & Facts, 6/09, p. 17, Brian Thomas, “Fossilized Biomaterials Must Be Young.” Photo: Corythosaurus casuarius skeleton a type of hadrosaur. (PD)

Where Are You From? Part II – Correction

May 27, 2018 by Lee

Broken Limb/Branch off of Tree

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH.” (Romans 1:16-17 NKJV)

In Where Are You From? Part II, I have found there was a mistake in my genealogy to Mercy Howland. When I applied to the Howland Society for membership, I had to produce the descendant lines. Apparently, Mercy Howland has been mistreated by Ancestry.com and has caused family trees of members to be misled. Mine included. In other words, I was told that we were related when we weren’t.

Jean, at the Society, was very nice and did try to find out about it, but as you can see from the two emails from her, apparently, I am not related to the Howlands off the Mayflower.

“My problem at the moment is that I have an email in to the Mayflower Society as I see that John and Mary (LEE) Howland did have a child Mercy in Plymouth but she did not live. Also, all their children were born in Plymouth or Barnstable. But I do have an email in to the Mayflower as to the status of “Mercy” Howland. because lines are opening up everyday!!!!” More later, Jean”

“Just got word [from Mayflower Society] that there is no additional proofs to indicate that Mercy lived. Lots of mismanaged “Trees” on Ancestry that indicate otherwise. But it is not true. Sorry.”

All of this was said to say, that apparently I am not related to John Howland that fell overboard and hung on to the rope. At least, unless someone can prove that Mercy Howland did have descendants. So for now, I have chopped that limb off of my ancestral tree. Still the Lord, in His sovereignty spared his life for the 2 million descendants of his [John Howlands]

Black-faced Dacnis (Dacnis lineata) Female ©WikiC

All of this still reminds me of the uncertainty and flux in the avian world. They are still reshuffling birds around. The Aves – A Taxonomy in Flux site will give you an idea of how the birds keep changing because of DNA and other studies.

Aves – A Taxonomy in Flux

Just May 19th and 20th this year:

May 20

Chaetura Swifts: Continuing the Ridgely splits (Ridgely and Greenfield, 2001), I’ve split Tumbes Swift, Chaetura ocypetes, from Short-tailed Swift, Chaetura brachyura.
[Apodidae, Apodiformes, 3.09]

Cardinalidae: Another IOC/Ridgely and Greenfield (2001) split is Olive Tanager, Habia frenata, from Carmiol’s Tanager, Habia carmioli.
[Cardinalidae, Core Passeroidea V, 3.05]

Thraupidae: Still following IOC and Ridgely and Greenfield (2001), Yellow-tufted Dacnis, Dacnis egregia (inc. aequatorialis) has been split from Black-faced Dacnis, Dacnis lineata.

Also, the Black-and-chestnut Warbling-Finch, Poospiza whitii, has been split from the Black-and-rufous Warbling-Finch, Poospiza nigrorufa based on Jordan et al. (2017), Shultz and Burns (2013), and SACC Proposal 753.
[Thraupidae, Core Passeroidea V, 3.05]

Caribbean Hornero (Furnarius longirostris) ©©Flickr DaveCurtis

May 19

Elaenias: Based on Tang et al. (2018), I have rearranged Elaenia and returned Chilean Elaenia, Elaenia chilensis, to Sierran Elaenia, Elaenia pallatangae.
[Tyrannidae, Tyrannida II, 3.06]

Furnariinae: I have accepted several splits from IOC and Ridgely/Tudor (2009). Subspecies are allocated as in IOC.

Pacific Tuftedcheek, Pseudocolaptes johnsoni, is split from Buffy Tuftedcheek, Pseudocolaptes lawrencii.
Pacific Hornero, Furnarius cinnamomeus, and Caribbean Hornero, Furnarius longirostris, are split from Pale-legged Hornero, Furnarius leucopus.
Striped Woodhaunter, Automolus subulatus, is split into Western Woodhaunter, Automolus virgatus and Eastern Woodhaunter, Automolus subulatus.
Plain Thornbird, Phacellodomus inornatus is split from Rufous-fronted Thornbird, Phacellodomus rufifrons
Creamy-breasted Canastero, Asthenes dorbignyi is split into Pale-tailed Canastero, Asthenes huancavelicae, Rusty-vented Canastero, Asthenes dorbignyi, and Dark-winged Canastero, Asthenes arequipae.

Baron’s Spinetail, Cranioleuca baroni, has been lumped into Line-cheeked Spinetail, Cranioleuca antisiensis. See Seeholzer and Brumfield (2018) and SACC Proposal 762.
[Furnariidae, Furnariida II, 3.05]

From that same page:

2018 Additions and Subtractions

Based on scientific names.

2018 Splits (34)

Tropical Gnatcatcher (Polioptila plumbea) ©Flickr barloventomagico

Tumbes Swift, Chaetura ocypetes
Striolated Manakin / Western Striped-Manakin, Machaeropterus striolatus
Painted Manakin / Peruvian Striped-Manakin, Machaeropterus eckelberryi
Vermilion Flycatcher, Pyrocephalus obscurus
Darwin’s Flycatcher, Pyrocephalus nanus
San Cristobal Flycatcher, Pyrocephalus dubius
Blackish Chat-Tyrant, Ochthoeca nigrita
Maroon-belted Chat-Tyrant, Ochthoeca thoracica
Pacific Tuftedcheek, Pseudocolaptes johnsoni
Pacific Hornero, Furnarius cinnamomeus
Caribbean Hornero, Furnarius longirostris
Western Woodhaunter, Automolus virgatus
Plain Thornbird, Phacellodomus inornatus
Pale-tailed Canastero, Asthenes huancavelicae
Dark-winged Canastero, Asthenes arequipae.
Eastern Tropical Gnatcatcher, Polioptila atricapilla
Western Tropical Gnatcatcher, Polioptila parvirostris
Maranon Gnatcatcher Polioptila maior
Northwestern Tropical Gnatcatcher Polioptila plumbiceps
Yucatan Gnatcatcher, Polioptila albiventris
White-browed Gnatcatcher, Polioptila bilineata
Himalayan Shortwing, Brachypteryx cruralis
Chinese Shortwing, Brachypteryx sinensis
Taiwan Shortwing, Brachypteryx goodfellowi
Sumatran Shortwing, Brachypteryx saturata
Flores Shortwing, Brachypteryx floris
Bornean Shortwing, Brachypteryx erythrogyna
Philippine Shortwing, Brachypteryx poliogyna
Mt. Apo Shortwing, Brachypteryx mindanensis
Peruvian Pipit, Anthus peruvianus
Puna Pipit, Anthus brevirostris
Olive Tanager, Habia frenata
Yellow-tufted Dacnis, Dacnis egregia
Black-and-chestnut Warbling-Finch, Poospiza whitii

2018 Lumps (4)

Chaco Nothura, Nothura chacoensis
Chilean Elaenia, Elaenia chilensis
Baron’s Spinetail, Cranioleuca baroni
South Georgia Pipit, Anthus antarcticus

“the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints,” (Ephesians 1:18 NKJV)

Am disappointed about not being related to John Howland? A little, but I still have a great family and heritage. My Christian family is even larger and I do not have any way to trace their roots. Yet, when we all get to heaven, OH! What a reunion that will be! All my spiritual family and many of my own genetic family there.

What a reunion day!

to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen.” (Ephesians 3:21 NKJV)

“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH.” (Romans 1:16-17 NKJV)

Where Are You From I

Where Are You From II

Where Are You From?

April 21, 2018 by Lee

Wood Stork Tree at Circle B by Lee

When I work on the updates to the I.O.C. every so often, it is because the ornithologist have been asking questions about the birds. Where are they from? Where did they migrate? What is the latest DNA discoveries? And so they split and lump the birds again and again.

Genetic guide to birds – ©Scientific Am

The researchers with Answers in Genesis and at the Institute for Creation ask questions also about the birds and critters. Where did they come from? How many different kinds were on the Ark? They check DNA also. Birds in A Family Tree, and Creationism, And Evolution and Hybrid Animals

Baltimore Oriole (Icterus galbula) Chicks in nest ©WikiC

I am no different from them, except I am not a scientist, just curious. My interest of late has been split between birds and working on the genealogy of my ancestors. They both have similarities. Where did they come from?

This verse in Nehemiah sort of explains how some birds get removed from families. When the ornithologist analyzes the DNA, they find out that that bird wasn’t even related.

“These sought their register among those that were reckoned by genealogy, but it was not found: therefore were they, as polluted, put from the priesthood.” (Nehemiah 7:64 KJV) [In other words, they didn’t belong with that group.]

We know without any doubt that the Lord God created the birds as well as my ancestors and myself as well. That is a given!

As the birds spread from the Ark, they have been able to live in some areas more than others. They made their homes there. Others stayed, but couldn’t survive. They died off and became extinct, like so many of those Reunion birds.

Dan and I sitting way out front.

Like the birds, my brother and I just made the decision to have our DNA tested. We shall find out if we really are who we think we are. Trust they don’t throw us out of the Boles/Bushnell family.

On Thursday, instead of writing blogs, I was working on my genealogy and made a FANTASTIC discovery!!! We weren’t traced back to the Ark, but, we do relate back to the Rogers family that came over on the MAYFLOWER! [For our foreign readers that may not know the American history, that ship brought the first settlers to America here in 1620 AD.]

Replica of Mayflower in Plymouth, Massachusetts ©WikiC

This post has two main purposes:

1) The posts haven’t been produced as often lately, because of working on my ancestry.

2) Are any of my readers also interested in tracing your family tree? Just because we love birds doesn’t mean we do not have other interest. If you would leave a comment about your other interests besides birds, they would be appreciated.

Have a great day and stay tuned!

A Surprise For The Evolutionary Scientist!

April 11, 2018 by Lee

EVOLUTIONARY SCIENTISTS FIND A SURPRISE!

“Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not expect Him.” Matthew 24:44

Painting: Passenger Pigeon According to the Bible’s history, human beings were created perfectly by God about 6,000 years ago. We should note that this means we were not only morally perfect, but genetically perfect as well. According to evolutionists, our ancestors split off from the monkeys millions of years ago. Both viewpoints agree that each generation of human beings adds mutations to the ongoing human gene pool.

How many mutations are added by each human generation? Researchers with the University of Sussex and the University of Edinburgh looked for the answer to this question. They examined DNA from living parents and children, as well as known mutation rates for mammals. They assumed that some mutations would be fatal and thus not added to the overall gene pool. They also assumed that a very few mutations might be helpful, an assumption that has never be demonstrated to be true. They finally calculated that 100 harmful mutations are added to the human gene pool by each generation. Their published conclusion was that, considering the millions of years humans have been evolving, we should have easily accumulated enough mutations to make us extinct a long time ago!

This research is clear evidence for a recent appearance of man, and implies that the Earth was created a relatively short time ago, as portrayed by the Genesis. However, human life on Earth will end when Jesus Christ returns to collect all believers to live in a new heavens and Earth.

Prayer:

Lord, Your Word is true so I eagerly await Your return for me. Amen.

Notes:

Notes: Nature, 1/28/99, “High genomic deleterious mutation rates in hominids,” pp. 344-347. Photo: The passenger pigeon, one of hundreds of species of extinct birds. (PD)

Passenger Pigeon (Ectopistes † migratorius †) ©WikiC Specimen

Monkeying With Genetics and A False Tale of a Tail

April 27, 2016 by Lee

“What is man, that thou shouldest magnify him? and that thou shouldest set thine heart upon him?” (Job 7:17)

You can see the written copy of this article here – CLICK.

“And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.” (John 5:38-40 KJV)

Here is another Creation Moments Minute about a Baby With A Tail.

You can see this written copy here – CLICK

“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. And their word will eat as doth a canker:” (2 Timothy 2:15-17a KJV)

What will you do with Jesus?

Birds, People and DNA

February 3, 2015 by Lee

Flamingo by Dan at Flamingo Gardens

So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” (Genesis 1:21-22 NKJV)

Recently, I have been interested in genealogy. I have been working on our ancestry while staying home since I have been “under the weather.” It is really fun and exciting finding out about my previous generations. It also can be time-consuming and addictive, if you let it.

I can only imagine how those that are working on the DNA of our avian friends feel. If you have been following this blog very long, you know that I keep updating my Birds of the World when a new version comes out. When the Ver. 4.2 came out I.O.C. Version 4.2 Updated, I wrote this:

“They (the birds) are still doing as commanded by the Lord to reproduce and keeping the ornithologist busy naming, renaming, and rearranging them.

This time they renamed one and moved it to a new family just for it. The Spotted Wren-Babbler (Spelaeornis formosus) was in the Timaliidae Family. It has been renamed the Spotted Elachura (Elachura formosa) and placed in its own Elachuridae Family. (I do not have permission yet to post a photo.)

Version 4.2 also took the Lark Family and tossed it up in the air and rearranged it. See the Alaudidae – Larks Family. The DNA researches are keeping them busy keeping up with how the birds bred. Some of the scientific names were changed:”

Tawny-throated Leaftosser (Sclerurus mexicanus) by Michael Woodruff

Maybe the DNA Bird Researchers could hire this Leaftosser to help them out. Not sure if the next version coming out soon will toss another family up in the air or not.

Of course, we believe that God created these beautiful, and not so beautiful, birds and not by evolution over millions of years. Yes, they did inter-breed over the years and you have different looks and songs within the families. But they are still birds and the Lord has wonderfully made DNA that helps trace that.

Today, you can trace your own ancestors through DNA. I don’t understand much about it, but what I do know is this:

I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, And that my soul knows very well. (Psalms 139:14 NKJV)

Here are some interesting articles that do discuss DNA from a Christian Perspective:

(From this article) But nowhere does the Bible say that species cannot change! Instead, it seems that they would have to change—within the limits of their own interbreeding kind—in order to fulfill God’s command in Genesis 1 for His living creatures to fill the earth and its many changing environments.

Darwin insisted that animals slowly change between kinds. In contrast, seedeater birds have shown that they rapidly changed within their kind. Despite Campagna’s touting of Darwin’s “accomplishments,” these birds display programmed variation, not evolution.

Marsh Seedeater (Sporophila palustris) ©WikiC

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When I Consider! – Dinosaur and Bee DNA

November 11, 2009 by Lee

When I Consider!

Evidence From Microbiology – October 17

Science News, Nov. 18, 1994, reported that dinosaur DNA had been identified within unfossilized dinosaur bones found 2,000 feet below the surface of the earth in a Utah coal mine. The DNA did not match any known creature currently alive on Earth. The find was disputed on the grounds that dinosaur DNA should not have survived the supposed 80 million years. The DNA fragments also had no similarity to bird DNA (from whom the dinosaurs supposedly evolved). Therefore, this evidence has been largely ignored.

Oldest Bee (in Amber)

Science News, May 20, 1995, reported that scientists have extracted and revived live bacteria from the stomach of a bee which was encased in amber “over 25 million years ago.” Although the work was done with the greatest of efforts to prevent any “modern” bacteria from contaminating the results, many biochemists refute the find because, “DNA spontaneously degenerates to short fragments over a period of several thousand years at moderate temperatures.” Thus, this work has also been ignored because it does not fit the old-earth model.

These are just two examples showing how the assumption of evolution hinders the progress of knowledge. Evidence which does not fit into the “evolutionary mold” is ignored on the basis that it shows evolution—with its requirement of an ancient earth-to be wrong. The evidence fits perfectly into the biblical model of Earth history with a relatively recent worldwide burial of organisms. DNA fragments can still be found, because the earth is relatively young.

World By Design Newsletter,
Vol 2, no 6; Vol 3, no.3

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. Proverbs 9:10

From A Closer Look at the Evidence, by Richard and Tina Kleiss

Some Interesting Links to Articles:
Dinosaur DNA Research: Is the tale wagging the evidence?
Dinosaur Protein Sequences and the Dino-to-Bird Model
Common DNA Sequences: Evidence of Evolution or Efficient Design?
Evolution Wilts in Light of Flowering Plants
Ancient Amber Discovery Contradicts Geologic Timescale

When I Consider! – DNA in Dinosaurs

August 11, 2009 by Lee

When I Consider!

Evidence from the Fossil Record – from A Closer Look at the Evidence, August 8.

“As soon as a plant or animal dies, its DNA begins to decompose. The oldest accurately known DNA samples are from a 4000-year old mummy. Based on the deterioration of the molecule from samples of this age. it is estimated that essentially no DNA could survive longer than 10,000 years. However, DNA segments have been found in magnolia leaves (dated by evolutionists at 17 million years), dinosaur bones (dated at 80 million years), scales of a fossilized fish (dated at 200 million years) Evolutionary scientists should be asking how DNA could still be contained in samples this old when more recent samples indicate that the DNA molecule is far too sensitive to have lasted this long. Perhaps there is something wrong with the old-earth dating methods and these fossils still contain DNA fragments simply because they are not as old as believed. These samples have been simply dated wrong due to faulty assumptions of radiometric dating methods.

Dinosaur Fossil from OCR.org

Evolutionists have a similar problem with protein preserved in dinosaur bones. As with DNA, no protein should last 75 to 150 million years; yet protein has been found in dinosaur bones. These plant and animal remains are simply not as old as evolutionists believe.”

In the Beginning, 7th Ed., p29-30

Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last. Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, And My right hand has stretched out the heavens; When I call to them, They stand up together. (Isaiah 48:12-13 NKJV)

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